the white house is messaging on it very carefully for a reason. if you listen to the president's comments, even joe biden's comments, incredibly defensive, very preemptive in the language in how they talk about guns because west virginia, tennessee, yes, not in place but ohio and virginia would be in play i think if democrats become too aggressive. there are certainly some appetite for gun control. the assault weapons ban polls well and some change in the wake of the massacre in newtown but there hasn't been a sea change. plurality of americans, many americans still own guns. and they -- i think will be receptive to a little bit of change but if they feel like the white house is going overboard, it could blow up on the president. so the resolution is to go ahead and do what you think is right but to do in it a way that doesn't offend those people. remember, president obama famously said at a fund-raiser in the 2008 come pain that he wasn't doing well in pennsylvania because of people that cling to guns and religion. >> right. james, you know, don'